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Post by Captain Marvel on Nov 10, 2011 14:55:23 GMT 1
Guys.....did you really believe them?.....did you really believe they would let this one go....its not in the fatmans mentality to heed anybody but what reflects in his oversize mirror. This is just the beginning........Jan Trans window.....Bye Bye Colo ..........last of the high wage bills.........what you dont believe me? Time will tell. I do not think anyone knows what they are likely to come up with next Canny. It seems as if there is a different agenda entirely to whats happening on the pitch. So is it through luck or good judgement we are where we are?     ATB |
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Post by Jazz on Nov 10, 2011 15:28:54 GMT 1
What's next....replacing the black and white stripes with the corporate colours of "Sports Direct"!!!!!!  |
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Post by Pollypeterborough on Nov 10, 2011 17:02:20 GMT 1
Newcastle city council. The authority said today it would refuse to change any signs in the city bearing the name of St James' Park. HP. BBC News Tyne & Wear.  |
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Post by Nattfare on Nov 10, 2011 20:53:13 GMT 1
Apparently this will provide the club with £10 mil per year if they find a suitor for a new name... enough money to buy a new player Llamliar claims. Yeah right!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2011 21:16:37 GMT 1
Well perhaps Lambsarse should have read this before opening his craw to spout more  www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/10/newcastle-sports-direct-arena-sponsorshipSuch is my view of Mikey and his useless MD I'm even struggling to get angry over this latest in a long list of screw ups. What hurts more than anything is Lambsarse actually thinks people will believe the sh**e he comes out with. Strange how there was very little wrong with, in marketing parlance, brand Newcastle United at St James' Park, until this shambles got their hands on it. Now it's so tainted by Sh**e Direct I'm surprised any sponsor would even consider wanting to be associated with the name never mind paying £10m for the privilege. CWL  |
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Post by Captain Marvel on Nov 10, 2011 22:17:07 GMT 1
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Post by Captain Marvel on Nov 10, 2011 22:33:41 GMT 1
A History of the Town Moor
The Town Moor was part of the Town and the ancient grazing rights belonged to individual Freemen. It was probably part of the manor of Newcastle and thus included in the grant of the town to the Freemen by King John. It was evidently part of the property of the Freemen in the reign of Henry III, who granted permission to dig coal there, however the grazing rights probably go back to long before the Conquest. The Nuns Moor was purchased and added to the Town Moor after it had come into private ownership by royal grant after the dissolution of the Monasteries by Henry VIII.
In 1770 the Freemen suggested that the Moor (referring to an area on the southwest side of what is now Barrack Road and Ponteland Road) which was very rough and undrained, should be improved. Then in 1771 the Common Council, without consulting the Freemen, enclosed and purported to let this part of the Moor. The Freemen defending their rights, entered and took possession of this land. The Lessee, Joshua Hopper, supported by the Council, commenced a law suit for trespass. The action was tried on 10 August 1773, interestingly it began at 7 o'clock in the morning! Counsel for the Freemen, Serjeant Glynn, the Recorder of London having admitted trespass, was called upon to justify it. When he closed his speech Counsel for the Corporation, on being asked if he did not mean to make a reply made the memorable response, "How can I reply? - he has pounded me in a common and I cannot get out!"
A compromise was effected and the Town Moor Act was passed in 1774, at the expense of the Corporation, establishing for ever the right of the Freemen to the grazing on the Moor, without prejudice to the ownership. The management of the Moor was set out in that Act. It was slightly modified by the Newcastle upon Tyne Improvement Act 1870 which gave statutory recognition to the Stewards Committee of the Freemen as the body to represent the Freemen in connection with the Moor. These two Acts established the governing and use of the Moor and constitute the "dual control" which was perpetuated in the 1988 Act. The City Council hold the legal ownership of the freehold and the Freemen have an absolute right to herbage so mutual agreement is required on nearly all matters relating to the land. The Freemen's rights are called "sole or several pasture". Statistics
Town Moor areas, as near as can be determined, are as below:
Area
Hectares
Acres
Town Moor
133.75
330.49
Nuns Moor (North, Central & South)
144.20
356.29
Hunters Moor
25.57
63.18
Dukes Moor
11.67
28.87
Little Moor
12.39
30.61
Castle Leaze
14.47
35.75
Other (allotments, playing fields, Little Benton and St. James' Park)
46.10
113.92
In many respects the prime value of the Freemen's rights is that they protect the open space, a wonderful asset for the City and its residents. This has been their main consideration over the last 250 years. Had there not been dual control over the Moors there can be no doubt, as highlighted by the schemes mentioned earlier, that the land would have been developed. It is an underlying principle of the Town Moor Act 1988 that the public of Newcastle should have the right of "air and exercise" on the Moor.
There have been some encroachments on the Moor by mutual agreement with the City Council. These have only taken place when the Freemen were satisfied that it was for the benefit of the public and the City. These include the Royal Victoria Infirmary, the former Fenham Barracks, various Parks, the University Halls of Residence, plantations and roads. Land exchange was taken in some instances, however, it must be said that this would be very unlikely to be the case today. Outlying areas are very difficult to manage and their identity lost to the public. (The largest area of 'exchange land', 30 acres at Little Benton, allowed the building of the University Halls of Residence on Leazes Moor.) The total taken out of Town Moor land since 1770 is approximately 210 acres leaving just under 1,000 acres. This is a fine record of preservation bearing in mind the pressures on open space, especially during the post war years.
The Royal Commission on Common land 1955-58 made several favourable references to the condition and management of the Moor in its Report. Describing the Moor as "an interesting example of a large area on the margin of a populous city centre where agricultural and recreational interests have been carefully married". They also stressed the necessity for proper grazing, without which land soon deteriorates and becomes derelict.
This very much agrees with the view of the Freemen as to the future of the Moor. To ensure that this remains a grazed open space it is vital that the 'dual control' system remains in place. The City Council is an elected body and a future Council may view matters in a different light. The Newcastle upon Tyne Town Moor Act 1988 protects the rights of the Freemen to this end and the Freemen are now in a stronger position to protect the open space from development. Various schemes are still proposed from time to time and the Freemen will remain vigilant in protecting the Moors. Changes to the pattern of use of the Intakes have been made, and will continue to be made as people's needs and interests change, but there is a strong determination that the acreage of the Moors will be strenuously defended. There can be little doubt that without their vigilance in the past and their courage to challenge authority there would be no Moors as we know them today. The commitment of the Freemen to protect the Moors, not just for future generations of Freemen, but for the City and citizens of Newcastle is paramount.
Is there another City with such an asset, often referred to as the 'lungs of the City' so close to its centre? It must be one of the finest urban open spaces in the United Kingdom.
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Post by Jazz on Nov 10, 2011 22:59:07 GMT 1
Great bit of information Captain...interesting stuff!   |
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Post by skintagain on Nov 12, 2011 1:19:38 GMT 1
who knows how low the fat man will go next it will be the club name, how does Newcastle and Sports Direct United grab you.
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Post by Jazz on Nov 12, 2011 11:16:50 GMT 1
Aye, NSDU........rolls off the tongue doesn't it!  |
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Post by Ann1 on Nov 12, 2011 14:37:34 GMT 1
Saw this on another forum....... Ashley's Sports Direct Arena ;D Asda anyone ;D Could he actually change the name of the team? What I mean is, has he got the power to do it if he wanted?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 14:13:18 GMT 1
I have read quite a bit on various newspaper sites, blogs and forums since the announcement about the renaming of SJP broke. One I did find very interesting is the following. www.barcelonafootballblog.com/11716/sign-heart-stadium-names/ I appreciate for many Toon fans Barca is the model they most aspire too however in this article possibly the most significant aspect for me was this simple statement: Sandro Rosell worked for Nike and no doubt learned the valuable lesson that money makes might and might makes right. For me that sums up perfectly Mikeys view of this situation. It will always be a case of put up or shut up. That said I also noted this among the comments.......... Presidents (or in our case Owners) come and go, as do stupid decisions. But the club stays. So I can support the club even as I choose not to buy another thing related to it, as long as the front of the shirt is for sale to the highest bidder. NUFC sold the name to the shirt a while back and obviously you cannot wear a stadium. For me it will always be St James' Park whether it's painted Blue and Red with Sh**e Direct plastered all over it. I have lived through dark days before in the histroy of NUFC and come through the other side. This is just another test of faith although some of it is proving harder to stomach. CWL  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 3:41:02 GMT 1
I have read quite a bit on various newspaper sites, blogs and forums since the announcement about the renaming of SJP broke. One I did find very interesting is the following. www.barcelonafootballblog.com/11716/sign-heart-stadium-names/ I appreciate for many Toon fans Barca is the model they most aspire too however in this article possibly the most significant aspect for me was this simple statement: Sandro Rosell worked for Nike and no doubt learned the valuable lesson that money makes might and might makes right. For me that sums up perfectly Mikeys view of this situation. It will always be a case of put up or shut up. That said I also noted this among the comments.......... Presidents (or in our case Owners) come and go, as do stupid decisions. But the club stays. So I can support the club even as I choose not to buy another thing related to it, as long as the front of the shirt is for sale to the highest bidder. NUFC sold the name to the shirt a while back and obviously you cannot wear a stadium. For me it will always be St James' Park whether it's painted Blue and Red with Sh**e Direct plastered all over it. I have lived through dark days before in the histroy of NUFC and come through the other side. This is just another test of faith although some of it is proving harder to stomach. CWL "I have lived through dark days before in the histroy of NUFC and come through the other side. This is just another test of faith " Says it all for all of us really.....no matter how old we are. Same Blue Red and Shiiiite...different day.......but this is more intense, more personal and the fatman is enjoying his time of glory, paid for not by his money this time, but by ours. I still subscribe to the 'pound of flesh' theory........we wont let him play in our gang so he has to get his own back. Childish........?.....it always is when you have a lot of money and left out or ridiculed..... |
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Post by Blue Star Broon on Nov 16, 2011 1:04:11 GMT 1
Don't subscribe to the theory he misses drinkin with the Toonies Canny. I think linking Sports Direct with NUFC automatically upgrades his cheap products. During matches TV announcers will be forced to call it by the new name, (I can't even type it sigh) there by gettin the name out. He has people on his payroll to drink and play with, ticking off the Geordies doesn't bother him in the lest. What company would even fathom renaming SJP with their company name? You start by alienating an entire region? Naw he's had his eye on getting his Big Sign on TV shots during matches fer some time now. The fact that we're third in the tables and away for a few weeks is perfect timing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 5:23:14 GMT 1
Don't subscribe to the theory he misses drinkin with the Toonies Canny. I think linking Sports Direct with NUFC automatically upgrades his cheap products. During matches TV announcers will be forced to call it by the new name, (I can't even type it sigh) there by gettin the name out. He has people on his payroll to drink and play with, ticking off the Geordies doesn't bother him in the lest. What company would even fathom renaming SJP with their company name? You start by alienating an entire region? Naw he's had his eye on getting his Big Sign on TV shots during matches fer some time now. The fact that we're third in the tables and away for a few weeks is perfect timing. Kinda agree with you but think its even worse than that.......I think he is gonna use Sports Shite on the stadium, the shirts and crack the Asian market , where football is really big and he already has zipperheads working in his sweatshops. China is the target.........NUFC is the vehicle to get him there.....Ever wondered why he is always one step in front of us? Our target is good football and trophies....his target is mass sales of his cheap shite bulk buy tat. |
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