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Post by nicknackpaddywhack on May 3, 2011 7:41:11 GMT 1
Thats very convenient. Buried at sea eh?  It's quite logical, being buried at sea his grave can't become place of martyrdom for Islamic extremist. You are of course right to question what and why's of everything the CIA or the American government do. The silence from Al Qaeda is deafening they have said nothing and done nothing ....I think they may be running around in disbelief like headless chickens ....And i think now is the time to get stuck into his supporters who live in the mountains attack them with everything we have before they can compose themselves and start planning their revenge |
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Post by Ann1 on May 3, 2011 9:46:44 GMT 1
TBH, I don't think they are going to let everyone know what they are planning!! And try something they will! It's like poking a wasps' nest to see what will happen!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 10:10:51 GMT 1
They are a the minute like a wounded animals, but you know how dangerous they are!!!
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Post by Shadow on May 3, 2011 12:36:31 GMT 1
Thats very convenient. Buried at sea eh? It's quite logical, being buried at sea his grave can't become place of martyrdom for Islamic extremist. You are of course right to question what and why's of everything the CIA or the American government do. I'm afraid I'm questioning all of this  So far all we have is the US version of events and that just isnt enough for me.As for this sea burial-I'm sorry but we are talking about the worlds most wanted man who was hunted for 10 years and I find it incomprehensible that they would dispose of the body so rapidly without any independent confirmation of who it was.I dont believe for one minute it was for any religious reason -sea burials are not exactly common within the muslim community and nor to I believe it was to avoid any worshipping-this could have been achieved in so many other ways-such as a secret burial or indeed sea burial at a later date. There is now absolutely no way to confirm who that was other than the evidence supplied by the people responsible for killing him. Wonder if the others killed were also so rapidly interred-havent heard a mention of their fate so far  |
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Post by Ann1 on May 3, 2011 12:56:23 GMT 1
But what possible benefit would America achieve from saying they have killed him, if they haven't? In fact it could cause them - and us - a whole heap of trouble!!! And all he has to do is go on Al Jazeera TV, and say that "rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated" ;D His supporters would have been incensed to see the celebrations in Times Square/Ground Zero, and are probably now plotting something equally as bad as 9/11.!!
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Post by Nattfare on May 3, 2011 13:14:36 GMT 1
I'm still being sceptical about all this.
So they had four helicopters that stormed a heavy fortified compound where one of the choppers crashed into the compound. No American soldier was harmed in this operation and the only casualties that I have heard of has been two couriers, one woman and Bin Ladin himself.
On that report it sounds like the place wasn't even guarded and yet a chopper managed to crash.
Why would they honour a muslim tradition for one of the most wanted men in the world and have him burried within 24 hours? Besides, you can actually postpone the burrial (can't remember what it was called or how long you could delay it).
Sounds to me as if they are hiding the body or hiding the fact that they never had any body.
It is also very convenient that it happens just now when an re-election in the US is getting close and Barack Obama hasn't won any favors from the people before this and all of a sudden he is a hero for having started this operation.
Others also think that Bin Ladin has never existed, that he has anly been made up so blame could just be cast at someone.
Wouldn't surprise me if this is true but to me things doesn't really add up.
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Post by Shadow on May 3, 2011 13:18:18 GMT 1
What if hes been dead for years  The benefit to Obama of saying he is dead could be seen yesterday during the celebrations when the crowds were chanting "four more years".It also gives the possibility of withdrawing troops out of Afghanistan amongst other things. If announcing this is raising danger levels then why announce it at all-he could have been killed and disposed of quietly  Al Qaeda as such only has a few members now-some say approx.100 and every report Ive read or heard suggests that they really have little power to worry anyone now-its other factions that are threatening reprisals such as the Pakistan Taliban. After the lies told regarding Iraq and the WMD I'd question everything the US and UK Governments do or say now. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 13:25:13 GMT 1
According to some of the things I have been reading Bin Laden has been a figurehead only for the last few years...................... The major operational aspect and brains behind Al Qaeda having been transfered some time ago. Mind you Al Qaeda have become like the old Communist regime in the fifties and sixties as far as the American public are concerned. A terrorist behind every corner.............so clearly the fear factor of this strategy is working...............then again that is what terrorists are supposed to do, frighten people into submission? Do you honestly believe the people behind terrorist activities such as 9/11 or 7/7 or Milan etc. etc. have ever stopped planning the next one...... Just because this man has alledgedly or actually been taken out, much to the delight of the American Government and people, probably changes very little as far as the Jihad goes. CWL  |
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Post by Ann1 on May 3, 2011 14:38:59 GMT 1
Yes, must say I agree CWL, they are planning and plotting as we type!!! For every one that is killed, there are 10 more ready to fill the gap!! Now I love a good conspiracy theory more than most ;D But I just cannot see what benefit there is in declaring Bin Laden dead, if he's not, or if he was killed years ago, and they are just telling people NOW??? Do the U S want to cause chaos?? Will it serve as an excuse for them to invade the Middle East? Are they doing it just to pi** the Muslims off, so they kick off, and give America an excuse to attack? There has to be a reason for it, and unless it's any of the above, I just cannot see what it is!!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 14:53:42 GMT 1
I agree Bin Laden has been a figurehead only, but so is the pope. Over the centuries millions of people have been massacred millions of people in his name. Millions of babies have been born into abject poverty because of his fixated and unyielding attitude to contraception.
Figurehead he maybe, influential..............absolutely.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 14:57:28 GMT 1
Ann it's World Politics and some astute statesmanship from Obama............. Everything else is conjecture which you either believe or have personal doubts about. The common people are unable to influence things sufficiently, possibly until the next election time, to make much immediate difference. As those elected into power will have already acted, obviously in the best interests of everyone who put them there, as it will no doubt be pointed out afterwards timing is everything!  As for any benefits..................well try asking those who are in power if you ever have an opportunity to do so? Brings to mind that classic line from A Few Good Men................ You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! Yeah! but best we never find out just in case................... CWL  |
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Post by Fairscup on May 3, 2011 16:06:33 GMT 1
I imagine Obama, like any other USA President is interested in being re-elected for a second term of office. He wasn't exactly doing great in the popularity charts. I don't believe he has anything to gain by lying about the events of the past few days. By being proved a liar he simply signs his own resignation. Now he has become Superhero over all superheros he has much too much to lose. What AQ do remains to be seen but I believe reprisals are imminent. Seb, helicopters have been known to crash as a result of technical failure or pilot error  |
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Post by Ann1 on May 3, 2011 17:48:35 GMT 1
Yes, I can believe Obama had him killed now, for his own political agenda. What I cannot understand is why would anyone lie about him being dead? All he has to do is refute it, and Obama looks like a right plonker! And having killed him years ago and keeping him on ice, is even one too many conspiracy theory, even for me!!
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Post by Nattfare on May 3, 2011 18:31:38 GMT 1
Seb, helicopters have been known to crash as a result of technical failure or pilot error I think they wanted it to be a little more dramatic. |
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Post by Nattfare on May 3, 2011 18:32:38 GMT 1
Yes, I can believe Obama had him killed now, for his own political agenda. What I cannot understand is why would anyone lie about him being dead? All he has to do is refute it, and Obama looks like a right plonker! And having killed him years ago and keeping him on ice, is even one too many conspiracy theory, even for me!! My favorite one is where they claim that Obama and Usama are the same people.  |
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