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Post by Shadow on Mar 6, 2011 16:09:24 GMT 1
Talking on the console reliability thread it struck me just how unreliable electrical goods are these days. I remember my parents having the same TV,machine,vaccum cleaner etc for years and years-we rarely got anything new as it wasnt needed. In the last five years Ive had two televisions die literally weeks out of their warranty-last one a bloody expensive LCD Hi definition one which lasted 13 months :(Four vaccum cleaners-three had to be taken back for refunds within weeks not months,about the same amount of microwaves and an upright freezer that lasted just over a year.None of these were budget range items and frankly its appalling when I think about it. CWL mentioned that they are built like this so that you have to buy the newer products. I reckon these electrical retailers offering extended warranties etc are onto a canny thing too. When we bought our new cooker first thing we did was take one out-I was that worried it was gonna break in a year.And Ive also got the washing machine,Fridge and dryer covered. TV is an old second hand one-couldnt afford another few hundred for another new one.Its old but it lasted years in its previous home and is still going strong here  |
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Post by nicknackpaddywhack on Mar 6, 2011 18:13:45 GMT 1
Talking on the console reliability thread it struck me just how unreliable electrical goods are these days. I remember my parents having the same TV,machine,vaccum cleaner etc for years and years-we rarely got anything new as it wasnt needed. In the last five years Ive had two televisions die literally weeks out of their warranty-last one a bloody expensive LCD Hi definition one which lasted 13 months :(Four vaccum cleaners-three had to be taken back for refunds within weeks not months,about the same amount of microwaves and an upright freezer that lasted just over a year.None of these were budget range items and frankly its appalling when I think about it. CWL mentioned that they are built like this so that you have to buy the newer products. I reckon these electrical retailers offering extended warranties etc are onto a canny thing too. When we bought our new cooker first thing we did was take one out-I was that worried it was gonna break in a year.And Ive also got the washing machine,Fridge and dryer covered. TV is an old second hand one-couldn't afford another few hundred for another new one.Its old but it lasted years in its previous home and is still going strong here Yeah i agree with CWL infact i would go further and say manufactures put what i call time faults into there electrics which pop up every now and again. When we bought our sons their first computers we took out an extended warranty with a difference....If we didnt claim off it during its 3 year term we got the cost of it back...and guess what 3 months before the warranty run out both computers went T+ts up and we had to claim under the warranty. |
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Post by Nattfare on Mar 6, 2011 18:18:12 GMT 1
Also keep mind that the more advanced the things get the more complicated they are built, meaning that there are more things in electronics that can break which also makes them more likely to break in overall.
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Post by Shadow on Mar 6, 2011 18:50:19 GMT 1
Thats a good point Natt. An old army mechanic friend of mine often helped me out with my cars before his untimely death. He said something similar about cars-more complicated they became the more faults there potentially are.Its funny-you would think things would get better as technology progresses. Its all well and good having a washing machine that can do a zillion different things but if its standing there broke after a few months its not much good then  |
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Post by nicknackpaddywhack on Mar 6, 2011 19:33:41 GMT 1
I remember some years ago when i worked at the city council
A chap came to my office and told me his Citroen xantia
had broken down with lights flashing on the dash he said
he had looked at the service book to see what the flashing lights meant .
It said do not attempt to drive contact dealer . Which he had and they would send a lo loader to pick it up.
I saw this chap ( who was the building officer for bank house)
a week or so later and he told me it had cost him £175 to be
told that he had a faulty diagnostic light on the dash
Money for nothing eh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 19:43:32 GMT 1
and chicks for free.............................  CWL  |
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Post by Ann1 on Mar 6, 2011 19:44:01 GMT 1
That's why I always try and buy the simplest items going ;D I don't need 20,000 programmes on my washing machine, I only ever use 2, I've got a phone that does all sorts, but I got it for the camera, and my iron I've had for 42 years, it had cool, warm and hot, and my microwave for nearly 30!! I remember years and years ago, when we were getting a new car, I said to my ex, why can't we have one with electric windows. He'd have none of it, as he reckoned, even then, that it was just one more thing that could go wrong with it!!
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Post by skintagain on Mar 6, 2011 23:43:21 GMT 1
bought an Electrolux fridge freezer in 1995 it broke down in 1997 bought a Bosch one to replace it and it's still going strong, bought a hotpoint dishwasher in 1996 13 month later in 1997 it broke down bought a Bosch one it's still going strong, bought a bosch washing machine about 4 or 5 years ago and had no problems with it, we have went through countless number of tumble dryers so a few weeks ago i bought a Bosch one, hoovers Vax get my vote for reliability, those Dysons do lose suction you get loads of catalogue returned Dysons in the auctions, Microwave Sanyo it's lasted longer than the other makes weve had, TVs LG LCD my sons is about 5 years old my daughters LG is 4 as is our one in the sitting room never had a problem with them,
Ann your iron 42 years old has cool, warm and hot, does that depend on how long you hang it over the fire ;D.
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Post by Ann1 on Mar 7, 2011 10:48:06 GMT 1
 Aye, that's the one skint I think it's 'cos it doesn't get much use 
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Post by Shadow on Mar 7, 2011 11:02:09 GMT 1
Only thing I have which is still going strong with no problems is a Bosch washing machine. My mam and dad,and my sister always buy German appliances as they firmly believe they are better built and more reliable. All of their appliances are either Bosch or now and again AEG.Even growing up their old TV was a Grundig Reckon they may well be right. |
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Post by nicknackpaddywhack on Mar 7, 2011 14:46:52 GMT 1
9 year ago we bought a Hotpoint ultima washing machine
and a matching Hotpoint condensing dryer.
next week we are replacing them not because they have
broken down far from it but because Mrs Nick has decided she is bored with them and wants a newer model
We have just replaced our oven. We had a NEF which is German
and had nothing but bother with it (2 year old) we have replaced
it with a Zanussi got a free 5 year extended warranty with it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 15:52:58 GMT 1
Interesting reading comments about different products................... Are any of you aware that a large number of goods sold by various retailers are all manufactured by the same Company yet can be badged as if originating from someone else? John Lewis do this quite a lot with their white goods, but are not the only one believe me. Mind you sometimes this works in the consumers favour as you can acquire a much better product at a vastly reduced price. There's also the brown box variety of items..............goods made in EEC for export or in other countries for internal consumption only, but which come back in or are made available by indirect route to be sold here. Good bit of photographic and electronics is available that way although warrenty is generally invalid. When it comes to mobile phones, Tv's and the like a large amount of technical collaboration also goes on. So again hunt around as it may not be called a Sony or Samsung, but uses the same components. So next time you go looking for a washing machine or cooker from whoever. Just have a look at the one next to it as it may be exactly the same model under a different name for half the price of the one with the manufacturers trade name plastered all over it. CWL |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 16:21:25 GMT 1
I've just had to replace a Hoover one week out of warranty, there's always one sucker. ;D
Isn't John Lewis a worker cooperative?
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Post by Ann1 on Mar 7, 2011 18:24:28 GMT 1
Why bother replacing them if they are not broken Nick??? That's just a sheer waste of money and resources!!  I never get anything new unless they have either worn out or conked out ;D If something does the job, why bother??? 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 19:00:50 GMT 1
The problem is many things like microwaves cost more to repair than to buy a new one.
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I never get anything new unless they have either worn out or conked out ;D If something does the job, why bother??? 