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Post by Roma on Feb 18, 2011 22:36:40 GMT 1
You have'nt upset me Nick I quite enjoy a good discussion, at the end of the day we all have different opinions ;D  Typical woman. cannys tin hat on.  How can we get upset polly about a discussion where we are'nt getting nast   |
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Post by Pollypeterborough on Feb 18, 2011 22:38:35 GMT 1
Typical woman. cannys tin hat on. How can we get upset polly about a discussion where we are'nt getting nast  |
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Post by Roma on Feb 18, 2011 22:41:59 GMT 1
I should hope so as well polly  |
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Post by Shadow on Feb 18, 2011 22:59:28 GMT 1
Nowt wrong with differences in opinion And heated rows are allowed too  We're all adults and the pubs just down the road for making up |
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Post by Roma on Feb 18, 2011 23:02:36 GMT 1
That's wher I'm making my way to ;D
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Post by Ann1 on Feb 18, 2011 23:14:43 GMT 1
Well, I'm with Nick on this one. Whilst I feel sorry for what he's gone through, I can't for the life of me understand why he is now suing Northumbria Police! He was doing his job, and to me it's akin to service personnel suing the Army - or rather the gov - for getting injured in the line of duty. Apparently he is still employed in the police, if that was any other job he would have been "medically discharged" back along. Is he really trying to say that they weren't warned that Moat was dangerous? This compensation culture is going way too far!!! 
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Post by Pollypeterborough on Feb 18, 2011 23:17:25 GMT 1
Well, I'm with Nick on this one. Whilst I feel sorry for what he's gone through, I can't for the life of me understand why he is now suing Northumbria Police! He was doing his job, and to me it's akin to service personnel suing the Army - or rather the gov - for getting injured in the line of duty. Apparently he is still employed in the police, if that was any other job he would have been "medically discharged" back along. Is he really trying to say that they weren't warned that Moat was dangerous? This compensation culture is going way too far!!! Its the modern world today something for note.  |
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Post by Shadow on Feb 18, 2011 23:23:18 GMT 1
Well, I'm with Nick on this one. Whilst I feel sorry for what he's gone through, I can't for the life of me understand why he is now suing Northumbria Police! He was doing his job, and to me it's akin to service personnel suing the Army - or rather the gov - for getting injured in the line of duty. Apparently he is still employed in the police, if that was any other job he would have been "medically discharged" back along. Is he really trying to say that they weren't warned that Moat was dangerous? This compensation culture is going way too far!!! Thats what I was saying Ann.Whilst I have every sympathy is a million pounds right?  |
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Post by Ann1 on Feb 18, 2011 23:24:21 GMT 1
Aye well, it's about time this compo culture was reigned in sharply!!! Everything these days is always someone elses' bloody fault, no one takes responsibility for themselves any more!!! Fall over a paving slab? Sue the council - never mind that you weren't watching were you were soddin going!! You cannot do anything these days because of the comp culture, have you seen what you need these days for a street party? God almighty, it used to be you got the neighbours together, made a few sarnies and Bob's yer uncle! Now you need bloody insurance, risk assessment, hygiene certificate for the sarnies etc, et bloody c!!!  I'm off for a pint!!!
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Post by Jazz on Feb 18, 2011 23:52:35 GMT 1
Yes, I tend to generally agree with nick & others on this one.
Also, I think that when people join the Police, Fire Brigade, Army etc they know the possible risks involved and of course no one wants anyone to suffer injury, death but......
I believe some professions have a terrible record for injuries and death....much higher than the Police. Building Workers, Fishermen and Miners (if we still had them) suffer terribly in this respect and don't get the massive publicity that this case has engendered.
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Post by Roma on Feb 18, 2011 23:57:50 GMT 1
Yes, I tend to generally agree with nick & others on this one. Also, I think that when people join the Police, Fire Brigade, Army etc they know the possible risks involved and of course no one wants anyone to suffer injury, death but...... I believe some professions have a terrible record for injuries and death....much higher than the Police. Building Workers, Fishermen and Miners (if we still had them) suffer terribly in this respect and don't get the massive publicity that this case has engendered. I agree with you jazz, the miners had a terrible job, and some are still suffering one way or the other. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2011 10:37:54 GMT 1
It's just another example of the litigious society we live in.
I have great sympathy for Rathband and I can't begin to imagine what he and his family has gone though.
It's unfortunately one of the risks of the job, and as Jazz rightly points out, all the other emergence services put themselves at risk on a daily basis, and other occupations also do, and are less well paid and without the kudos. He just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I don't know what arrangements the police force have in such a set of circumstances they must be insured and have pension funds in place.
Rathband has already appeared on the T.V. and It wouldn't surprise me in the least if a book is already being worked on.
I'm surprise Rathband is to sue the police, he above anyone ought to know how difficult and arduous that can be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2011 12:27:26 GMT 1
There's a lot of emotive stuff being presented here some of which I agree with and others I don't. I also struggle to deal with the aspect that he is some kind of hero because he was shot in the line of duty. Although I do concede he is an extremely determined character to have come through this ordeal both physically and mentally. However can I just point out one crucial thing............... Rathband having the intention to bring a case against the Northumbria Force to accept liability for what occurred that night is not the same as winning that case in a Court of Law or Industrial Tribunal! Ironically his job has put him in this position to sue just as much as it did in making him a victim of Raoul Moat. As other posters have pointed out I also wonder what the situation would be like if it was an ordinary citizen fighting this case who had been shot and disabled. Entirely different I bet. IMO he is still a long way off getting that £1m compensation for himself and his family. CWL  |
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Post by Ann1 on Feb 19, 2011 17:30:00 GMT 1
I agree he is a long way off getting it CWL, but surely the point is, should he even be in the consideration of getting it? I haven't put that right, but I think you know what I mean! He was doing his job, and he'll be entitled to his police pension. To me, it just smacks of greed!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2011 17:36:06 GMT 1
It's a reasonable assumption, yet regretably I suspect legal advisors and other interested parties are playing a major part in this when it comes to the money aspect. Such is life that those with the least to lose often gain the most from others misfortune. CWL  |
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This compensation culture is going way too far!!! 
