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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:34:37 GMT 1
The idea of there being no such thing as bad publicity, only keeping in the heads of the public at all times by any means, crossed my mind after reading this.... www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9596155/Newcastle-Uniteds-new-shirt-deal-with-Wonga-leaves-a-bitter-taste-but-it-will-be-swallowed-in-name-of-progress.htmlWe all know Mikey has courted controversy as a means of keeping his companies and business interests in the public eye. The Wonga deal is just more of the same albeit tempered with another obvious PR stunt by announcing the return of the name St James Park. Had Mikey paid to advertise this deal, rather than sit back then watch as the articles written by all and sundry were produced for free about The Toon's new shirt sponsor, it would have cost him a fortune Easy to see why the guy is a billionaire..... he doesn't give a stuff what anyone thinks.... as long as it makes him money! CWL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:44:28 GMT 1
You just have to laugh, as spotted on twitter.... Wonga sign £4m deal with Newcastle, with Newcastle having to pay £500m back by next year. Priceless.. CWL
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Post by Captain Marvel on Oct 9, 2012 20:11:17 GMT 1
You just have to laugh, as spotted on twitter.... Wonga sign £4m deal with Newcastle, with Newcastle having to pay £500m back by next year. Priceless.. CWL So what is the truth? On one hand its £8 million on the other its a cooler £4 million? I do not understand the giving back of £500.000 though seems a bit odd that? Given the bad smell associated with this deal you can understand the placating of the fans by re-naming the stadium back St James, trying to draw some of the sting perhaps? ATB
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 21:07:01 GMT 1
Capt'n have another look it's £500 million.... not £500,000. As for the actual amount of the sponsorship deal it probably will not be revealed until the 2013/14 financial figures are released sometime in 2015. CWL
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Post by Captain Marvel on Oct 9, 2012 21:24:10 GMT 1
Maybe Ashley took out a payday loan as well!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 11:11:00 GMT 1
I now wonder who else will jump on the bandwagon of moral outrage about The Toons new deal with Wonga.... www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastles-muslim-stars-told-dont-play-in-new-wonga-tops-8204411.htmlSpotted this yesterday as well which probably sums up my feelings on the whole affair..... Newcastle United the latest target of growing soapbox culture in football
Posted by SPORT WITNESS on October 9, 2012 at 18:51 in Sport Witness Football
I'm sure there's something I should be outraged about this week in the world of football, some moral crisis in the game which will damage those who follow it and show the blatant disregard football and footballers have for society at large and mankind in general.
It's hard, I'm getting bogged down with the moral campaigns. I'm 'moralled' out. As those clever sods who start us off on these crusades jump to the new soapbox I can't help but look at the soapbox mountain festering behind them.
Soapboxes which were once so important to us. Soapboxes which consumed our very being for at least 48 hours. Soapboxes which were going to change the game and how people thought about it. Soapboxes which were different from the last soapbox. Soapboxes which would make a real difference. These are quickly forgotten in pursuit of the next shiny soapbox. Won't somebody think of the soapboxes?
What are serious issues are lost in the midst of football journalists trying to prove they're actually quite clever and can lecture the world as well as call for a manager to be sacked or receive a stay of execution. Saddled up on a white horse headed for moral high-ground, they preach from their ivory tower about what is wrong with football this week. The masses, after receiving their dumbed-down lecture, then pick up the burning torches and off they go.
The next week something new will take over and the issue be largely forgotten. Infidelity, financial doping, tax evasion, actual doping, sick chants, racism, dubious sponsors.
A lot of the time it's necessary and it's hard for them to be a commentator on the game without commenting on it, that's a given. However, there is the slight suspicion that people are now actively looking for something to be outraged about rather than sitting back and waiting for outrage to overcome them. And this Wonga thing is just that.
Before I sound like a moral misfit, I have to say the seemingly essential 'But of course Wonga is a bad company employing bad people doing bad things to poor people. At Christmas they would do well to watch Scrooge treating Bob Cratchit with contempt and learn a lesson'. That should cover that, let's throw in a little used word and accuse Wonga of 'misanthropy', that'll add the brownie points. Oh, this is really where I should work out the annual interest rate on a company which doesn't offer annual loans, let's pretend I just did that.
I don't particularly like Wonga and what they do, quite successfully it seems, but then if I really thought about it I'd be concerned about the morals surrounding various advertisers in football. EON cuddled The FA Cup for a while and they have a nice track record in accusations of exploiting the needy, they've passed that mantle on to Budweiser and what harm has alcohol ever done anyone? Pah! Betting companies in the new world of social media are seen as the nice guys and have become immensely likable but the practice of gambling is being pushed onto fans of football almost constantly, you could get yourself into moral knots if you thought hard enough about it.
Then there's Standard Chartered, a firm which has recently been battered for laundering money from Iran. A firm labelled a 'rogue institution' by the US state. How many hoops of outrage could one football journalist jump through on that if they really tried?
These firms, Wonga included, don't only get their point over by advertising through football clubs. They have raised their profile through TV adverts, website slots and - shock and indeed horror - advertising in newspapers. Let's not get clingy about the firm on the front of a football shirt and pretend it's usually some standard bearer for the club and its values - it's merely an advert.
I'm not sure why this one has given me outrage fatigue, but I won't worry - there'll be a new soapbox along next week and a new chance for people to prove how impressively clever and rounded they are. And then solve absolutely nothing.
This was penned by Annie Eaves, follow her on Twitter @annieeaves
If you're genuinely concerned about the practices of Wonga and think you'll still be bothered in 72 hours, then these people look as though they're doing good work in the pursuit of bad practice. www.endlegalloansharks.org.uk/
CWL
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Post by Nattfare on Oct 10, 2012 11:54:08 GMT 1
Yep, it is only an outrage that Newcastle has a deal with Wonga. No one has been complaining in the papers that Blackpool has had the same sponsor for a couple of years now. Yes, Wonga is a despicable company that prey on the desperate and foolish and I wouldn't mind some other sponsor instead had there been one. But no one seems to be complaining about all those different betting companies that it feels like are gracing the majority of the teams' shirts today. Aren't they also companies with no morals that are preying on the desperate and foolish? No one seems to be saying anything about that however. Hypocrisy anyone? Feels like they all just have to complain just because it is Newcastle.
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