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Post by Nattfare on Jan 17, 2011 13:49:46 GMT 1
Just like last year, the goverment has started (despite an protest from the EU office) an organized hunt on the wolf tribes in this country. Last year the expected quota was 27 killed wolves, a number which the overeager hunters easily went over in just a few day, this year it is down to 20 wolves instead (you should note that over 6000 hunters signed up for this... 6000 hunters to kill 20 wolves). Half the quota was reached just over the weekend... two of the killed wolves were marked with GPSs for the help studying the species.
There is around 200 wolves in this country so it's not like it's overcrowded with them or something.
Last years excuse for the killing was to kill off the sick and weak wolves... almost all of them were strong and healthy.
This year it was to reduce them so other tribes would be desperate enough to accept outsiders...
The hunters excuse for the killing is to protect their hunting dogs, to protect their children from getting attacked on the way to the school bus etc.
The real reason though is that they don't want the competition, they aren't allowed to shoot as many elks and deers with wolves, lynxes and other preadators around.
The war of the wolf here has gone on for years and years, one camp who wants it extinct and the other who wants it still alive.
No human in Sweden has been reported to be attacked by a wolf for over 200 years and that one had grown up with humans, and therefore "half-tame", and wasn't afraid of them like other wolves are.
Maybe I'm overreacting but I'm really saddened by this, I really am... upset even.
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Post by Nattfare on Jan 17, 2011 14:00:55 GMT 1
Should also add that more hunting dogs were killed by other hunters or ran over by cars than killed by wolves.
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Post by Shadow on Jan 17, 2011 14:01:39 GMT 1
Im actually gobsmacked at this-never heard of it before today and it saddens me to read it also  6000 hunters to kill twenty wolves  Found this about last years cull news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8436670.stm |
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Post by Ann1 on Jan 17, 2011 14:08:16 GMT 1
That is shocking Natt!!!!! But unfortunately, typical of hunters who think nothing of killing anything with 4 legs.  Wolves are beautiful creatures, and should imagine that they are more afraid of humans than the other way round!!!! With good cause as well!!! Personally, I think it's hunting that should be banned, and only a very few licensed hunters allowed for the culling of animals, to either strengthen or preserve the species. There are times when some animals have to be culled, but it should be few and far between, and only EVER for the benefit of the species itself, and NEVER for sport!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 14:16:20 GMT 1
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Post by kittenkisses42 on Jan 17, 2011 14:17:27 GMT 1
Make you bloody sick, there are people in this country doing worse than any wolf ever could., why aren t they shot!!! If there is concern about sick animals, why not shoot em with a vaccine! Yet another reason that I am ashamed to be a human on this planet that we are destroying!!!! Very angry kitten now |
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Post by Shadow on Jan 17, 2011 14:22:40 GMT 1
I couldnt watch all of that video Milkhope Time and again I marvel at what we humans do to other species on this planet |
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Post by kittenkisses42 on Jan 17, 2011 14:40:09 GMT 1
I didnt even click on the video as I could imagine what it contained. Going slightly off topic now,. A few years ago, I took myself off to Tenerife in one of my not so wise moments....anyway, I visited a Zoo there which in lots of ways put my life into perspective.... I booked a Camel ride, but when I got to the enclosure, and saw the conditions these poor animals were in, I showed my disgust and shooed the man with the stick away......instead I beckoned one of the camels over to me, which it did and I talked to it, daft as it sounds, I stroked it and it put its head on my shoulder and appeared to fall asleep, calm as though never in its life it had experienced such kindness....I stayed there for over half an hour just whispering and stroking this poor animal, I was in tears....The man with the stick couldnt believe what he was seeing. It was truly heartwrenching. The second stop was at a very small cage containing a scar ridden underweight lion. There was a wall approx 4ft from the cage and I sat there watching him. Talking quietly to him, he lifted his head and looked me dead in the eyes, I swear I have never felt so humbled in my life that this magnificent animal was not only listening to me, but actually reacting to me.......All I could say was that I was so very very sorry that my species had done that to him.............all in all it was a terrible experience. Nothing more to say  |
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Post by Nattfare on Jan 17, 2011 16:06:58 GMT 1
I didnt even click on the video as I could imagine what it contained. Going slightly off topic now,. A few years ago, I took myself off to Tenerife in one of my not so wise moments....anyway, I visited a Zoo there which in lots of ways put my life into perspective.... I booked a Camel ride, but when I got to the enclosure, and saw the conditions these poor animals were in, I showed my disgust and shooed the man with the stick away......instead I beckoned one of the camels over to me, which it did and I talked to it, daft as it sounds, I stroked it and it put its head on my shoulder and appeared to fall asleep, calm as though never in its life it had experienced such kindness....I stayed there for over half an hour just whispering and stroking this poor animal, I was in tears....The man with the stick couldnt believe what he was seeing. It was truly heartwrenching. The second stop was at a very small cage containing a scar ridden underweight lion. There was a wall approx 4ft from the cage and I sat there watching him. Talking quietly to him, he lifted his head and looked me dead in the eyes, I swear I have never felt so humbled in my life that this magnificent animal was not only listening to me, but actually reacting to me.......All I could say was that I was so very very sorry that my species had done that to him.............all in all it was a terrible experience. Nothing more to say It's disgusting how we humans treat animals, mistreating or killing wolves, seals, whales, tigers, camels, lions and whatnot for sport or easy money just sickens me. |
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Post by kittenkisses42 on Jan 17, 2011 16:17:13 GMT 1
Yup me too, big time We humans are such a disappointment to the planet we abuse! |
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Post by Nattfare on Jan 17, 2011 19:17:32 GMT 1
Sweden has been taken up to court, EU is finally acting. Click here |
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Post by Shadow on Jan 17, 2011 19:35:03 GMT 1
Im really glad to hear that.
So many predators have already been wiped out by us leading to disasters along the food chain.
When you look at the proportion of prey consumed by them as opposed to what we kill its bloody ridiculous.
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Post by Fairscup on Jan 17, 2011 20:36:43 GMT 1
A little aside - 9 Swedish hunters were today on their way back home to Sweden having been beaten up by rioters in Tunisia.
Source : Norwegian TV2
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Post by Nattfare on Jan 17, 2011 20:40:29 GMT 1
A little aside - 9 Swedish hunters were today on their way back home to Sweden having been beaten up by rioters in Tunisia. Source : Norwegian TV2 Yep, they were there to hunt wildboar I think... sounds like they were out on a pleasure killing trip that went terribly wrong. |
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Post by Roma on Jan 17, 2011 20:47:46 GMT 1
It serves themselves right have'nt any sympathy for them. |
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Wolves are beautiful creatures, and should imagine that they are more afraid of humans than the other way round!!!! With good cause as well!!! Personally, I think it's hunting that should be banned, and only a very few licensed hunters allowed for the culling of animals, to either strengthen or preserve the species. There are times when some animals have to be culled, but it should be few and far between, and only EVER for the benefit of the species itself, and NEVER for sport!!!
I've seen Newcastle United win silverware!