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Post by wilee on Jan 11, 2011 11:54:38 GMT 1
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Post by kittenkisses42 on Jan 11, 2011 12:45:49 GMT 1
Sign of the times I'm afraid..........I'm doubtful that this government will get back in, but fearful for the legacy it will leave behind!  |
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Post by wilee on Jan 11, 2011 13:17:10 GMT 1
Some English Heritage bod was complaining to me last year that the lack of special events they were holding was due to the funding they get from the government being nicked for the Olympics. Wouldn't suprise me if this is another case of money being shifted to down south to cover something... hmm, any big events coming up this year down there?  All stupid though because when it all goes pear shaped and knacks things for the North, they'll only have to pile money in to undo the mess. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 18:35:16 GMT 1
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Post by nicknackpaddywhack on Jan 18, 2011 10:01:01 GMT 1
Sign of the times I'm afraid..........I'm doubtful that this government will get back in, but fearful for the legacy it will leave behind! I dont know Kit we all knew there was some serious cuts on the way. When it was at the talking stage everyone seemed to agree that cuts had to be made but now that the cuts are her everyone seems to be up in arms We have 2 parties from different ends of the political spectrum sharing power and are breaking election promises WHY i can only conclude that they have realised once they got to see the books the problems are a lot worse then anyone thought. The only people who are saying these cuts dont need to be made are the verry people who got us into this mess in the first place .....This country is in a serious mess and it was New Labour who put us there and tried to hide the fact Would you seriously consider voting for them again |
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Post by Ann1 on Jan 18, 2011 11:17:49 GMT 1
Thing is though Nick, they are cutting in the wrong places!!! And how do we know the deficit is as bad as what they say?? The Tories will do/say anything to cut back on "State intervention"!! It's what they do!! Is it right that front line services go the journey, while the people who implement the cuts continue to draw vast salaries? Why go after benefit claimants, whilst leaving the tax "avoiders" alone? Billions are lost to this country every year through "creative accounting", why not change the law on that? No, it's far easier to go after "ordinary" people!!! It's the injustice of it that people feel, but "we are all in it together"!! Yeah right!! 
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Post by nicknackpaddywhack on Jan 18, 2011 11:52:59 GMT 1
Thing is though Nick, they are cutting in the wrong places!!! And how do we know the deficit is as bad as what they say?? The Tories will do/say anything to cut back on "State intervention"!! It's what they do!! Is it right that front line services go the journey, while the people who implement the cuts continue to draw vast salaries? Why go after benefit claimants, whilst leaving the tax "avoiders" alone? Billions are lost to this country every year through "creative accounting", why not change the law on that? No, it's far easier to go after "ordinary" people!!! It's the injustice of it that people
feel, but "we are all in it together"!! Yeah right!! Ann i agree with you 100% but what do you do Its so easy to blame the government but they did not put us where we are......If New labour had won the election do you think they would of come clean and admited to the mess they had created or would they just kept sweeping the problem under the matt and made out to the rest of the world that the British way was best because thats what they were doing. As for the Tory / Libdem government useing it as an excuse to slash services ....Every one knew what was going to happen and it has so who do you blame the Tory / Libdem coalition for doing what we expected of them or New labour for ballsing it all up and giving the Tory / Libdem Government the chance to do what they are doing |
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Post by avatar on Jan 26, 2011 13:20:54 GMT 1
I'm very much involved in the NNPA and my company is one of the few companies which have helped the NNPA develop their environmental and sustainability plan.
In the early new year we where invited to comment on the new proposed structure and changes needed in light if the massive cuts imposed on the Park.
Make no mistake the NNPA never did run with massive overheads in management staff. The opposite was true to be honest if anything they where light in management which is why they relied on people like me able to support them with expertise they did not have in house.
I did comment on their new management structure and it's been drawn up to have the minimum impact on the front line staff to ensure the statutory obligations the park has to deliver can be delivered.
I'm actually up at the HQ in Hexham on Friday afternoon to discuss how we can shape the business going forward to develop energy related projects like Micro Hydro, Biomass CHP etc in order to use the parks abundant energy resources to generate revenue for the park.
I just thought I'd share that with you and perhaps not take what is in the press as accurate.
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Post by Ann1 on Jan 26, 2011 14:31:06 GMT 1
Will this idiotic idea to flog our woods affect National Parks, or are they completely different things?
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Post by avatar on Jan 26, 2011 18:51:10 GMT 1
Ann the NNPA actually less then 1% of the park themselves, the MOD and wealthy landowners like Lord Joicey (sp) actually own it. The NNPA is just an overseeing body.
There is also very little if any "National Forest" in the Park as its all owned my the gentry and MOD so we'll not at least see our national parks decimated by this idea.
There is some sense to all this believe it or not, if the forests are sold they can provide a valuable range of products as well as biofuels and it's a renewable source. So it doesn't make sense for a company to buy it and fell all the woodlands, there is no chance of the land being used for anything else as there are covenants attached to it's use.
It might actually be a good thing as it would bring woodland currently unmanaged back into a managed state and create jobs perhaps in the local communities Ann.
But it's an emotive subject for sure, just think after the last ice age (10,000) years ago the whole of the UK was one giant forest. It was gradually used up for building and fuel until it was replaced by coal in 1900's
Hi Ho
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 19:00:08 GMT 1
Ann the NNPA actually less then 1% of the park themselves, the MOD and wealthy landowners like Lord Joicey (sp) actually own it. The NNPA is just an overseeing body. There is also very little if any "National Forest" in the Park as its all owned my the gentry and MOD so we'll not at least see our national parks decimated by this idea. There is some sense to all this believe it or not, if the forests are sold they can provide a valuable range of products as well as biofuels and it's a renewable source. So it doesn't make sense for a company to buy it and fell all the woodlands, there is no chance of the land being used for anything else as there are covenants attached to it's use. It might actually be a good thing as it would bring woodland currently unmanaged back into a managed state and create jobs perhaps in the local communities Ann. But it's an emotive subject for sure, just think after the last ice age (10,000) years ago the whole of the UK was one giant forest. It was gradually used up for building and fuel until it was replaced by coal in 1900's Hi Ho Silver, Away! Sorry couldn't resist................  CWL  |
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Post by Ann1 on Jan 26, 2011 19:49:32 GMT 1
TBH, I don't really care who owns it, what I object to is if they stop people going there, by putting up fences and gates!! I can't understand, if they can't do anything else with it, why they should stop people walking, cycling etc there?? If it's private land, does that mean they would be allowed to have fox hunting on it, as it would be like a huge "back garden"!?
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Post by avatar on Jan 27, 2011 22:41:23 GMT 1
Always that danger Ann I'm afraid but the sale of the forests can be tied in with covenants forcing the new owners to grant public right of way.
All in all there are less than a 1,000 sq miles of forest in the sale anyway and special areas like the Forest of Dean etc are not in the sale. So popular tourist areas will remain open.
You could argue and have a point that this is the thin edge of the wedge though, in monetary terms it will only save a few million a year it hardly seems worth it to me.
Cheers
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Post by Jazz on Jan 27, 2011 23:01:31 GMT 1
I wonder if this has any bearing on the selling of woodland....I seem to remember a few years ago hearing something about wealthy individuals ie pop stars, TV personalities etc, etc buying up woods...something to do with tax...here is a link:- www.woods4sale.co.uk/taxation.htmIts too complicated for me....I'm no tax lawyer! |
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