what do you think

[nicknackpaddywhack]

So pc David Rathband is to sue Northumbria police for
one million pounds im sorry if i come across as unsympathetic
thats not my intention but come on this man will not have to
work again if he does not want to he will no doubt get a
hefty wedge in compensation then theres the money he
gets from personal appearances and theres his pension
if he chooses to leave the force .
From the moment he got out of hospital its all been about
money he even hired a pr man.
And now he is going to bite the hand that fed him .
He evan got the nerve to say he wanted to go back to the force
...Right

[Roma]

I agree with you up to a point Nick, myself I think he's been allocated a legal adviser
at what's best for him to do, for me he deserves the compensation for what happened to
him. I don't think he's got the nerve to say he want's to go back to the force, but due to circumstaces he can't ,as he's not capable through no fault of his own. That part of his life has finished, it's sad really.

[nicknackpaddywhack]

Feb 18, 2011 20:16:42 GMT 1 Roma said:

I agree with you up to a point Nick, myself I think he's been allocated a legal adviser
at what's best for him to do, for me he deserves the compensation for what happened to
him. I don't think he's got the nerve to say he want's to go back to the force, but due to circumstaces he can't ,as he's not capable through no fault of his own. That part of his life has finished, it's sad really.

Roma the point i was trying to put across was if he is sucessfull
in suing the force would they want him back.
He seems to have them over a barrell

[Shadow]

I am not completely clear as to why Northumbria Police are being sued TBH.

As I understood it-PC Rathband was waiting where he was that night because he was actually looking for Moat.I am assuming that he would have been aware that Moat had shot two people and was armed and I'm not sure that the knowledge that he had specifically threatened the Police would have changed that.He didnt see Moat approach the car even tho in all likelyhood he was being extremely vigilant so I just cant see how anything would have been different

I have total sympathy for PC Rathband-Ive seen him interviewed many times and its clear that his injuries are devastating and life-changing-and it wont just be him affected-his family will have suffered greatly also.And its horrible having to quibble about amounts paid to victims of these horrendous crimes but the parents of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman received just 11,000 from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. Figures paid out for the death of a child are lower than for the death of an adult because the financial impact is deemed to not be as great.I know Criminal injuries isnt the same as suing but it makes me wonder why some receive so much and some so little.And given that many mistakes were made regarding Huntley I am staggered at such a low value being put on the life of those children

A million pounds seems a huge amount-I know you cant really put a price on things like this but I think its knowing that other victims of crime receive little or no compensation that gets people backs up.

[nicknackpaddywhack]

He claims Northumbria Police did not warn him early enough
that moat had threatened to shoot policemen.
What differance it would of made i dont know as he would of still
been sitting on the roundabout

[Roma]

Feb 18, 2011 20:35:50 GMT 1 @nicknackpaddywhack said:

Feb 18, 2011 20:16:42 GMT 1 Roma said:

I agree with you up to a point Nick, myself I think he's been allocated a legal adviser
at what's best for him to do, for me he deserves the compensation for what happened to
him. I don't think he's got the nerve to say he want's to go back to the force, but due to circumstaces he can't ,as he's not capable through no fault of his own. That part of his life has finished, it's sad really.

Roma the point i was trying to put across was if he is sucessfull
in suing the force would they want him back.
He seems to have them over a barrell

What I mean Nick is that you are saying he won't have to work, yep your right there he won't, but if he sues and wins do you honestly think that's going to give him his life back to how it was... no amount of money can do that for him, he has'nt got that have you ever wondered what was going through his mind when he was laid in that hospital. It's coming across to me as if you don't think he's entitled to this. he was putting his life on the line just like the other officers, he's blind and will have to rely on the help off his wife. Good luck to him I say, but that's only my opinion.

[nicknackpaddywhack]

Feb 18, 2011 20:55:44 GMT 1 Roma said:

Feb 18, 2011 20:35:50 GMT 1 @nicknackpaddywhack said:

Roma the point i was trying to put across was if he is successful
in suing the force would they want him back.
He seems to have them over a barrel

What I mean Nick is that you are saying he won't have to work, yep your right there he won't, but if he sues and wins do you honestly think that's going to give him his life back to how it was... no amount of money can do that for him, he hasn't got that have you ever wondered what was going through his mind when he was laid in that hospital. It's coming across to me as if you don't think he's entitled to this. he was putting his life on the line just like the other officers, he's blind and will have to rely on the help off his wife. Good luck to him I say, but that's only my opinion.

I know exactly what you mean Roma
The vast majority of people only know David Rathband because
of what Raoul moat did to him.
Your right no amount of money will give him his life back i have
total sympathy but like i said he will get a pay out from the
criminal injuries board he will be getting thousands for the
personal appearances he will get a large lump sum from his pension plus monthly payments that would be enough to
give most of us a comfortable life but he now wants the force to cough up one million pounds because the police didnt get on
the radio quick enough David Rathband knew that moat had
killed a man and was a danger he would of been told to be
vigilant at the beginning of his shift.

I will let you in on something Roma I know David Rathband
Personally( in a professional capacity) and he was not a nice man
But saying that I would not wish what happened to him on
anyone.....At the end of the day he was just unlucky to be where
he was.

[Roma]

know exactly what you mean Roma
The vast majority of people only know David Rathband because
of what Raoul moat did to him.
Your right no amount of money will give him his life back i have
total sympathy but like i said he will get a pay out from the
criminal injuries board he will be getting thousands for the
personal appearances he will get a large lump sum from his pension plus monthly payments that would be enough to
give most of us a comfortable life but he now wants the force to cough up one million pounds because the police didnt get on
the radio quick enough David Rathband knew that moat had
killed a man and was a danger he would of been told to be
vigilant at the beginning of his shift.

I will let you in on something Roma I know David Rathband
Personally( in a professional capacity) and he was not a nice man
But saying that I would not wish what happened to him on
anyone.....At the end of the day he was just unlucky to be where
he was.
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If the police did'nt get on the radio quick enough it's their fault,and even if he was'nt a nice man, he was doing his job, but like you say he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope he get's the million.

[magpie4ever99]

I agree Roma. Officer Rathband was just doing his job on the day and because of Moat is now blind for life. We talk about rathband but what about his wife and kids?! They are the oens who suffer as well. He deserves not only the money but also recognition for his bravery. Just my opinion.

[nicknackpaddywhack]

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If the police did'nt get on the radio quick enough it's their fault,and even if he was'nt a nice man, he was doing his job, but like you say he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope he get's the million.

[/quote]

I dont understand what David Rathband could be told on the radio that he didnt already know.
Moat had killed a man & wounded his ex girlfriend and was on the
run David Rathband like everybody else knew that.
The radio operator did not know that moat was creeping up
the slip road towards David Rathbands car.

[Shadow]

There is an idea that people are paid to do things like News interviews,Newspaper articles etc.

A long time ago people made assumptions about us because for about a year we were very heavily publicized.This was in part due to a PR person taking it upon themselves to start a fund for my son without our consent-and eventually I had to contact them.I have to admit-after dealing with nearly losing our son and trying to cope-I did for a short while allow them to make decisions on our behalf.You have no idea nick what happens then.Everyone wants a piece of you.Ive turned down Jeremy Kyle,Trisha,GMTV,Film crews from abroad,News crews wanting to film dressing changes.Not one was paying a penny-just offering me the chance to "broaden poeple awareness of burns" which emotionally I wasnt ready or able to do.

I did one "exclusive" interview with a National-the PR person convinced me that the money paid-and it wasnt a huge amount-could go toward my son.To my dying day I regret that.The distortion was untrue in the name of making everything more lurid and entertaining-never ever again.Members of my familly cried reading what was printed.

I also did one story with one of them true life rags thinking I could do some good.Ended up being syndicated by the mag-they were paid by other mags to use our story.They got paid plenty

The Evening Chronicle never paid for any article.

Traumatised people and their famillies sometimes make poor decisions initially or do stuff hoping to help it stop happening to others-it distracts you and means that you dont have to face what happened properly just yet.

I dont blame PC Rathband.

The media would be all over him.One day-years down the line perhaps when you crave to be just "some-one"-thats when it begins to hit you.

[Roma]

But neither did David Rathband know tht Moat was creeping up behind unti he saw him through the mirror.. to late then was'nt it.

[nicknackpaddywhack]

Feb 18, 2011 22:00:28 GMT 1 Roma said:

But neither did David Rathband know tht Moat was creeping up behind unti he saw him through the mirror.. to late then was'nt it.

I think i will jump of this roundabout now...Hope i havent
upset anyone with my view on this...But i think theres more to
this then meets the eye

[Roma]

You have'nt upset me Nick I quite enjoy a good discussion, at the end of the day we all have different opinions ;D

[Pollypeterborough]

Feb 18, 2011 22:10:08 GMT 1 Roma said:

You have'nt upset me Nick I quite enjoy a good discussion, at the end of the day we all have different opinions ;D

Typical woman. cannys tin hat on.