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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 21:45:10 GMT 1
sourmilky I did not say I know more than the World Health Organisation but I do think you have misquoted them, it should be obvious even to someone like you with a long put out to pasture brain that 5.1% would have worked out at around 331500000, had it been 0.5% that would probably account for all those that had died from aids up to 2005. If you still think they quoted it as 5.1% and this was not you're mistake show us the article which quoted this figure. nickk I think everyone including Farage knows there is hardly a true thing said by other politicians, sourmilky probably believes everything the other politicians say, they could wave a banana I the air and say it was a carrot and sourmilky would believe it. Try calculating from 1981! I don't believe anything a politician says!!! The difference is, what Fagage says I find far more obnoxious. You obviously believe his vile agenda, which show a high level of naivety.................and his supporters....................? |
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Post by skintagain on Apr 15, 2015 17:46:22 GMT 1
Sourmilky if you read posts properly you would have noticed I said up to 2005, even calculating from 1981 up to today the figure would still start 0. and nowhere near you're miscalculated 5.2%.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 21:34:04 GMT 1
Sourmilky if you read posts properly you would have noticed I said up to 2005, even calculating from 1981 up to today the figure would still start 0. and nowhere near you're miscalculated 5.2%. Take it up with the WHO. No doubt they're used to dealing with numpty smart arses. As for Farage's HIV/AIDS remarks: They weren't twisted be "daily rags" or "BBC bias" he said them live on TV.............Yes, monkey and trees applies. |
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Post by skintagain on Apr 16, 2015 6:57:17 GMT 1
sourmilky unless you can provide a link to the article you refer to I will just take it as you're mistake, it is a case of either you don't read articles and posts or you lack an understanding of the articles and posts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 20:17:08 GMT 1
sourmilky unless you can provide a link to the article you refer to I will just take it as you're mistake, it is a case of either you don't read articles and posts or you lack an understanding of the articles and posts. I'm not really interested if you you regard yourself a better authority than WHO! Snacks a bit of smug and arrogance. I'm more interested Farage's policies of blaming immigrant for this countries recession, when every with half a brain knows it was greedy Bankers. Farage should know he was one of then. The outrageous claim that immigrants with HIV/AIDS are putting pressure on the NHS. When everyone knows for all the cuts to the NHS (not from top downwards as promised) and creeping privatisation is to blame. Blaming the immigrants for all the country's ill, where have I heard that before.................Oh yes from a Mr Hitler in the 1930. Farage could be a very dangerous man. |
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Post by skintagain on Apr 17, 2015 3:55:17 GMT 1
sourmilky I don't regard myself a better authority than WHO, I am still waiting for you to link me to where they said 5.2% until then i will take that 5.2% as you're pulled out you're arse figure and nothing to do with WHO.
So sourmilky you think that 54% of those getting treatment for HIV who are from abroad don't put a strain on the NHS, how about £880million a year, I would call that quite a strain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 11:42:55 GMT 1
So sourmilky you think that 54% of those getting treatment for HIV who are from abroad don't put a strain on the NHS, how about £880million a year, I would call that quite a strain. I don't know where this data from? I ask because he isn't the greatest source of unbiased data, and apparently better informed than The World Health Organisation. It is however irrelevant, £880 million (alleged) p.a. compared with 50 billion for HS2 and £100 billion from Trident is just small change. After Farage made a fool of himself last night in the debate, him and his idiot supporter have lost all credibility. The UKIP bubble have well and truly burst. The monkey has climb the tree and reached it's limit, as people have seem enough.......................more than enough. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4anBsb1Go3c |
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Post by skintagain on Apr 18, 2015 2:15:25 GMT 1
sourmilky have you read the comments left by people on that youtube link, have you became a UKIP fan because that is the sort of link and response any UKIP fan would be proud of.
sourmilky what you fail to understand those coming here from abroad for free HIV treatment through the NHS is just one example and just the tip of the iceberg of health tourism that is buckling the NHS, if we took all the other treatments people come here for it would be in the billions, as UKIP have stated it is a National not International health service.
sourmilky what the hell has HS2 and Trident got to do with NHS, why don't you compare the cost of weekly bin collections with HS2 and Trident, you do come out with some rubbish unconnected crap at times.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 10:58:07 GMT 1
sourmilky have you read the comments left by people on that youtube link, have you became a UKIP fan because that is the sort of link and response any UKIP fan would be proud of. sourmilky what you fail to understand those coming here from abroad for free HIV treatment through the NHS is just one example and just the tip of the iceberg of health tourism that is buckling the NHS, if we took all the other treatments people come here for it would be in the billions, as UKIP have stated it is a National not International health service. sourmilky what the hell has HS2 and Trident got to do with NHS, why don't you compare the cost of weekly bin collections with HS2 and Trident, you do come out with some rubbish unconnected crap at times. You're really UKIP inculcated: HS2 and Trident have everything to do with the NHS...................where does the money come from for them? |
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Post by skintagain on Apr 18, 2015 15:46:09 GMT 1
sourmilky so are you suggesting that the NHS pays for Trident and HS2, come in mister jones take one of these missiles before bed and you will feel over the moon in the morning, and if that does not cure you how about a high speed train ride.
at the end of the day sourmilky health care tourism costs the NHS billions each year, another problem is the NHS has a massive shortage of staff because the Government has failed to invest in training, removing the health care tourism and it is one way to save billions each year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 20:50:45 GMT 1
I just wonder where the phrase "Health Tourism" originates? Could it be UKIP? Maybe a Farage wet dream?
So "Health Tourism" costs £880 million p.a....................I'd love to know where the source of the data, and I would be happy view it.
Where do you think the money comes from to fund the NHS, Trident, pensions, benefits etc etc. THE TREASURY!!! Even Gordon Brown knew that.
The NHS is in trouble (it is creaking at the seems) not because of any alleged "Health Tourism" the NHS is suffering from under investment and privatisation over the last five year. A&E is especially suffering due to people turning up there, being unable to get an appointment with there GP. To allege that the NHS is in trouble due to apparent "Health Tourism" show a enormous lack of understand and ignorance, when everyone is aware the NHS would grind to a halt if it wasn't for the none British staff. It's a huge insult to hard working caring people, not on too much money.
The best thing UKIP can do for the NHS, is convince the foolish and naive to vote UKIP, and take some votes and seats off the Tory's, and inadvertently save the NHS.
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Post by skintagain on Apr 19, 2015 4:03:00 GMT 1
sourmilky a link for you and no mention of UKIP. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8391274/Health-tourism-why-the-NHS-became-popular-destination.htmlI know where the money comes from to fund the NHS but HS2 and Trident are completely different subjects which usually includes questions such as do we need them and can we afford them, the same questions don't get asked when we talk about the NHS. sourmilky I think you are confused about what health tourism is, it has nothing to do with none British staff it is about people coming here for no other reason than to access free health care, that is FREE treatment in case you still don't understand what I am saying, it is however you who show an enormous lack of understanding and ignorance. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 11:39:33 GMT 1
Two salient points. As members of the EU, we are entitled to use other member states health services via (E 109). EU immigrants have a net gain of 43 million for Britain.
This is why UKIP and it's clowns should never have any say on the NHS...................or anything else.
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Post by skintagain on Apr 21, 2015 23:40:36 GMT 1
sourmilky the main bulk of immigrants in question are not from the EU.
I do like the new picture with the camels, better looking camels than that last picture.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 23:57:43 GMT 1
EU migrants are the only one's than leaving the EU could stop, despite Farage's bolloks.
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